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		<title>By: learnspanishcd</title>
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		<dc:creator>learnspanishcd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey just wanted to give you a quick heads up. The words in your article seem to be running off the screen in Safari. I&#039;m not sure if this is a formatting issue or something to do with internet browser compatibility but I thought I&#039;d post to let you know. The design and style look great though! Hope you get the problem solved soon. Many thanks</description>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 01:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Living in the same house with somebody who uses Bittorrent, I absolutely understand why Comcast wanted to throttle that irritating program.  Bittorrent is a program used for sharing files in violation of copyright laws (not that I have any problem with violating what I consider to be grants of monopoly privilege).  Please don&#039;t insult anybody&#039;s intelligence by pretending that it is anything other than that.  Furthermore, public Bittorrent is insecure and is a great way to get yourself sued for copyright infringement, while private (and supposedly &quot;safe,&quot; at least until the copyright enforcers infiltrate them) Bittorrent sites will ban you if you aren&#039;t constantly uploading the files.

Bittorrent is simply a horrible way to acquire and distribute copyrighted files.  One-click file hosting web sites are a superior option because they are secure and because they do not hog the household Internet connection.  An HTTP download will slow down when other people try to use the connection.  A Bittorrent download hogs the entire connection and makes web pages fail to load at a very high rate.

Since the Federal Censorship Commission (a body that, in my opinion, should be abolished because it abridges freedom of speech by banning words it doesn&#039;t like and violates freedom of the press by artificially restricting the number of TV and radio stations; the FCC is not necessary to stop people from interfering with existing station signals, provided that the stations are granted ownership of their frequency in the area in which they operate and have the right to sue anybody who interferes with it) decided that Comcast (I don&#039;t have their Internet service, by the way) can&#039;t throttle Bittorrent, Comcast decided to do something that I believe should legitimately be illegal (&quot;cap&quot; the amount that each customer can use their Internet service in a month).  In my opinion, ISPs should be legally mandated to provide &quot;unlimited&quot; Internet access (&quot;limited&quot; only by their ability to provide the service) to all customers, but they should be free to throttle Bittorrent and to offer highest priority connections to people that pay extra for them.  An ISP has a limited amount of connection available to it at a specific moment, but there is no good reason why they can&#039;t let everybody have &quot;unlimited&quot; monthly Internet (whatever they can use with a limited speed, but with less speed when the network is congested) while offering &quot;priority&quot; service (full speed you&#039;re paying for) to people who pay for it and implementing Bittorrent throttling to stop Bittorrent users from hogging the connection.  Comcast-style monthly caps and Hughesnet-style (worst ISP ever, by the way) daily caps should be illegal.  Throttling Bittorrent and &quot;priority&quot; tiers should be legal.  Of course, our government usually does the opposite of what they should do, so they&#039;ll probably outlaw what should be legal and allow what should be illegal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living in the same house with somebody who uses Bittorrent, I absolutely understand why Comcast wanted to throttle that irritating program.  Bittorrent is a program used for sharing files in violation of copyright laws (not that I have any problem with violating what I consider to be grants of monopoly privilege).  Please don&#8217;t insult anybody&#8217;s intelligence by pretending that it is anything other than that.  Furthermore, public Bittorrent is insecure and is a great way to get yourself sued for copyright infringement, while private (and supposedly &#8220;safe,&#8221; at least until the copyright enforcers infiltrate them) Bittorrent sites will ban you if you aren&#8217;t constantly uploading the files.</p>
<p>Bittorrent is simply a horrible way to acquire and distribute copyrighted files.  One-click file hosting web sites are a superior option because they are secure and because they do not hog the household Internet connection.  An HTTP download will slow down when other people try to use the connection.  A Bittorrent download hogs the entire connection and makes web pages fail to load at a very high rate.</p>
<p>Since the Federal Censorship Commission (a body that, in my opinion, should be abolished because it abridges freedom of speech by banning words it doesn&#8217;t like and violates freedom of the press by artificially restricting the number of TV and radio stations; the FCC is not necessary to stop people from interfering with existing station signals, provided that the stations are granted ownership of their frequency in the area in which they operate and have the right to sue anybody who interferes with it) decided that Comcast (I don&#8217;t have their Internet service, by the way) can&#8217;t throttle Bittorrent, Comcast decided to do something that I believe should legitimately be illegal (&#8220;cap&#8221; the amount that each customer can use their Internet service in a month).  In my opinion, ISPs should be legally mandated to provide &#8220;unlimited&#8221; Internet access (&#8220;limited&#8221; only by their ability to provide the service) to all customers, but they should be free to throttle Bittorrent and to offer highest priority connections to people that pay extra for them.  An ISP has a limited amount of connection available to it at a specific moment, but there is no good reason why they can&#8217;t let everybody have &#8220;unlimited&#8221; monthly Internet (whatever they can use with a limited speed, but with less speed when the network is congested) while offering &#8220;priority&#8221; service (full speed you&#8217;re paying for) to people who pay for it and implementing Bittorrent throttling to stop Bittorrent users from hogging the connection.  Comcast-style monthly caps and Hughesnet-style (worst ISP ever, by the way) daily caps should be illegal.  Throttling Bittorrent and &#8220;priority&#8221; tiers should be legal.  Of course, our government usually does the opposite of what they should do, so they&#8217;ll probably outlaw what should be legal and allow what should be illegal.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 01:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was just the info I was looking for. So there is really no way to fix this? Even the prioritizing doesn&#039;t help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was just the info I was looking for. So there is really no way to fix this? Even the prioritizing doesn&#8217;t help?</p>
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		<title>By: SiliconANGLE &#8212; Blog &#8212; Effects of BitTorrent on a Starbucks-AT&#38;T hotspot</title>
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		<dc:creator>SiliconANGLE &#8212; Blog &#8212; Effects of BitTorrent on a Starbucks-AT&#38;T hotspot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the sheer volume of signaling and payload packets per second can overwhelm a wireless network and even low bandwidth BitTorrent can cause a lot of jitter.&#160; This is why I ran the tests off [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Digital Society &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Effects of BitTorrent on a Starbucks-AT&#38;T hotspot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digital Society &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Effects of BitTorrent on a Starbucks-AT&#38;T hotspot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 02:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 04:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George,

Bittorrent can easily cause the network to get bogged down (latency-wise) by what I would call an ACK storm.  It sounds like this is what is happening in your case.  Tomato (not sure about DD-WRT) has an option to minimize this impact in the QOS settings.  When I did a similar test, torrent downloads did not have as large an impact as they had before.

Regards,

--Brendan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George,</p>
<p>Bittorrent can easily cause the network to get bogged down (latency-wise) by what I would call an ACK storm.  It sounds like this is what is happening in your case.  Tomato (not sure about DD-WRT) has an option to minimize this impact in the QOS settings.  When I did a similar test, torrent downloads did not have as large an impact as they had before.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>&#8211;Brendan</p>
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		<title>By: Naresh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi George Ou,
I have a little question in my mind. As i download any torrent through BITtorrent, i noticed that there is so much amount of uploaded data consumed. Can u give some idea about this. .. 

Thanks..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi George Ou,<br />
I have a little question in my mind. As i download any torrent through BITtorrent, i noticed that there is so much amount of uploaded data consumed. Can u give some idea about this. .. </p>
<p>Thanks..</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Society &#187; Blog Archive &#187; BitTorrent would rather be selfish than friendly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digital Society &#187; Blog Archive &#187; BitTorrent would rather be selfish than friendly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use Vuze and this has always been a terrible problem for me especially as i&#039;m sharing the internet connection with 5 other guys.
In your article You point out that this seems to be a problem of too much buffering.
So i looked around the Vuze settings, and found entries called &quot;Socket SO_SNDBUF&quot; and &quot;Socket SO_RCVBUF&quot; (Located in Connection-&gt;Extended Settings). I set them both to 3000 (2x the MTU), and now it seems to run much more smoothly. Haven&#039;t done any measurements yet, but i feel quite satisfied now, as my pings have improved substantially.
So, thanks a lot for the insight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Vuze and this has always been a terrible problem for me especially as i&#8217;m sharing the internet connection with 5 other guys.<br />
In your article You point out that this seems to be a problem of too much buffering.<br />
So i looked around the Vuze settings, and found entries called &#8220;Socket SO_SNDBUF&#8221; and &#8220;Socket SO_RCVBUF&#8221; (Located in Connection-&gt;Extended Settings). I set them both to 3000 (2x the MTU), and now it seems to run much more smoothly. Haven&#8217;t done any measurements yet, but i feel quite satisfied now, as my pings have improved substantially.<br />
So, thanks a lot for the insight!</p>
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		<title>By: Sen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.... so how would you fix it? am i the only one not getting it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;. so how would you fix it? am i the only one not getting it?</p>
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