Comments on: SAP benchmarks for AMD Shanghai released http://www.formortals.com/sap-benchmarks-for-amd-shanghai-released/ Because technology isn't just for geeks Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:02:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: George Ou http://www.formortals.com/sap-benchmarks-for-amd-shanghai-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1129 George Ou Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:20:38 +0000 http://www.formortals.com/?p=133#comment-1129 Did you not see me praise the performance gains of AMD in the same piece criticize them for putting up suboptimal Intel benchmarks? Maybe if you spent less time apologizing for AMD, you would have noticed that.<br><br>I have not gotten around to analyzing all the new benchmarks yet because I have a different day job now. But when I do, I'll be sure to praise AMD Shanghai for where it clearly is now the superior product (at least for the next 2 months until Nehalem arrives).<br> Did you not see me praise the performance gains of AMD in the same piece criticize them for putting up suboptimal Intel benchmarks? Maybe if you spent less time apologizing for AMD, you would have noticed that.

I have not gotten around to analyzing all the new benchmarks yet because I have a different day job now. But when I do, I’ll be sure to praise AMD Shanghai for where it clearly is now the superior product (at least for the next 2 months until Nehalem arrives).

]]> By: Thorn http://www.formortals.com/sap-benchmarks-for-amd-shanghai-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1128 Thorn Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:16:39 +0000 http://www.formortals.com/?p=133#comment-1128 It appears to me as if cherry-picking results isn't a completely alien concept to you. I'm not surprised to find an 8P-comparison (2.7-hop topology for the Opterons with a diminishing scalability advantage) with Intels hex-core X7460 as a competitor in your blog. It would have surprised me on the other hand to have seen you reporting how the Shanghai-Opterons bury the competition in VMmark or SPECjbb2005. It appears to me as if cherry-picking results isn’t a completely alien concept to you. I’m not surprised to find an 8P-comparison (2.7-hop topology for the Opterons with a diminishing scalability advantage) with Intels hex-core X7460 as a competitor in your blog. It would have surprised me on the other hand to have seen you reporting how the Shanghai-Opterons bury the competition in VMmark or SPECjbb2005.

]]> By: Me http://www.formortals.com/sap-benchmarks-for-amd-shanghai-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1126 Me Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:35:18 +0000 http://www.formortals.com/?p=133#comment-1126 Again George how are they being deceitful. The full disclosure is available for everyone to see and they are NOT comparing their best system to the Intel as there is another submission with much better scores. You George are making a mockery of tech journalism. Again George how are they being deceitful. The full disclosure is available for everyone to see and they are NOT comparing their best system to the Intel as there is another submission with much better scores. You George are making a mockery of tech journalism.

]]> By: shannon http://www.formortals.com/sap-benchmarks-for-amd-shanghai-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1124 shannon Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:35:16 +0000 http://www.formortals.com/?p=133#comment-1124 You just "came across them" did you??<br>more like Intel PR kindly helped you find them...<br>at least be honest! You just "came across them" did you??
more like Intel PR kindly helped you find them…
at least be honest!

]]> By: George Ou http://www.formortals.com/sap-benchmarks-for-amd-shanghai-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1123 George Ou Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:06:07 +0000 http://www.formortals.com/?p=133#comment-1123 http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_8796_8800~128957,00.html<br>The SPECpower comparison they put up is deceitful because they compare their own best system with a mediocre Intel system that they themselves submitted and handpicked to lose. If this is the standard by which we go by, then anyone can pretty much spin a benchmark anyway they want since they can always find their competitor's weaker system and compare it to their own best. AMD has made a mockery out of the entire benchmarking process. http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_8796_8800~128957,00.html
The SPECpower comparison they put up is deceitful because they compare their own best system with a mediocre Intel system that they themselves submitted and handpicked to lose. If this is the standard by which we go by, then anyone can pretty much spin a benchmark anyway they want since they can always find their competitor’s weaker system and compare it to their own best. AMD has made a mockery out of the entire benchmarking process.

]]> By: Thorn http://www.formortals.com/sap-benchmarks-for-amd-shanghai-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1122 Thorn Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:00:05 +0000 http://www.formortals.com/?p=133#comment-1122 Since they've officially launched them today, the Opteron benchmark site has been updated with results for SPECint_rate, SPECfp_rate and SPECjbb:<br><br>http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_8796_8800,00.html<br><br>There are also VMmark results published for the Shanghai Opterons:<br><br>http://www.vmware.com/products/vmmark/results.html<br><br>AMD's naturally comparing the results of the 2384/8384 (non-SE) with 80/90W TDP Xeons, which I'm sure you'll find deceitful ;). Since they’ve officially launched them today, the Opteron benchmark site has been updated with results for SPECint_rate, SPECfp_rate and SPECjbb:

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_8796_8800,00.html

There are also VMmark results published for the Shanghai Opterons:

http://www.vmware.com/products/vmmark/results.html

AMD’s naturally comparing the results of the 2384/8384 (non-SE) with 80/90W TDP Xeons, which I’m sure you’ll find deceitful ;) .

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